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Sasha
Sasha
5 years ago

Charm, isolate, abuse, blame, ghost, repeat–this destructive pattern is still, today, the driving force behind the shiny veneer of the Welcomed Consensus. I am very grateful to people who share their experiences so that other women and men have a better chance of not being drawn into this insidious racket.

Christine
Christine
5 years ago
Reply to  Sasha

Thank you for your comment. It is unclear if anyone outside of Mallie & Ginger, their boyfriends Sven and Elliot (they call them the GEMS), and Bill and Dave are living at the SF house. Hopefully this site has slowed their roll and the last women to move out were the last to try their luck with Bill and the Welcomed Consensus. Does anyone out there know? Maybe an anonymous supporter will fill us in 😉

TD
TD
5 years ago
Reply to  Christine

A year or so ago, in addition to everyone you named, two other men lived at the SF house. One was named Stephen. The other one I can’t remember the name of. Millie and Ginger were the only females living there at that time.

When I was last in touch with any of the folks associated with the WC, Bill had just introduced Sasha and someone named Annie or Andie (maybe Angie?) into the cult. I got the impression from posts on FB that the A gal was around for quite a while.

Sasha, it sounds as if things went south quickly. I am sorry you had those experiences. But I am glad for you that you got out of there relatively quickly.

Christine
Christine
5 years ago
Reply to  TD

Hi Trish!

I just found this and another comment in my spam folder…yikes this is steep learning curve! I’m updating the sit right now so you might not see this right away, sorry!

Stephen and Elliot are Mallie and Ginger’s boyfriends, maybe David was the other guy?

Denise Maher
Denise Maher
5 years ago
Reply to  Sasha

Sasha,
I know how affected you were by Bill. It is easy to get drawn in and snapped back. My hope is that he will be taken out of his position and the whole community becomes defunct.

Sally
Sally
5 years ago

Violence is wrong, domestic violence is wrong…. so so so wrong.

For those on the outer rim of this, this is all so puzzling. Denise and Chrissy were the “baddest bitches”, — bullies even — who, without wavering, proliferated these very beliefs. Denise was one of the most public villains I witnessed. How does one make sense of all this?

Christine
Christine
5 years ago
Reply to  Sally

Hi Sally,

Yes Dennis and I were the “baddest bitches”, we were both well trained. Denise was also immersed, Bill still is. When you are part of one of the inner circles the indoctrination is intense. Also I have been thinking that I don’t talk about the good times, the love and fun and friendship that made recovery from all the abuse easier. There is a whole depth of understanding I have now about how this came to be that I am sharing, as I can, to help show how mistaken they are. I know in my heart that the innermost circle to RJ believe that they are actually saving the world (hopefully this blog has helped lodge some doubts in their minds, these people aren’t stupid). They believe that their viewpoints are enlightened and too heady for the average person to understand, this allows all forms of subterfuge and manipulation to occur. I don’t know if you read any of the posts about how the cult works, Sex, Cults, and Rock n’ Roll: part 2 DURING.. I will be posting more. There is also a resource about domestic violence at the bottom Denise’s Story. It has good information about how women get into that predicament. The same sorts of tactics are used by pimps, pedophiles and cult leaders.

I am truly sorry I sold that bullshit for all those years, please accept my apology for any I sold you or any bullying I subjected you to. This is my hope for atonement and the whole reason I continue this blog. It is not easy to share this kind of shameful history, but it is worse to understand my responsibility in this and do nothing. How it goes is I post then have a week of being hyper-vigilant and depressed with spikes of anxiety and despair. I am told by mental professionals that this is normal and if it wasn’t for them and my support circle I would have killed myself already. It used to be 2 or 3 weeks of hell when I started this blog, so only a week in an improvement. I am getting better. Of course once my equilibrium returns then the itch starts. It seems to take about a week of me telling myself it is ok, I don’t need to do anything more, before my skin is full of hives and the guilt, shame, fear for others and basic stupid ass injustice of it all for everyone has me choking and unable to sleep. Then I write some more. Write me an email truthaboutrj@gmail.com if you would like to talk on the phone. I have a lot of professionals helping me to make sense of this, I’ll answer whatever questions you might have. Or ask them here because as they say, if you have a question others do as well. Take care and thank you for commenting.

Denise Maher
Denise Maher
5 years ago
Reply to  Sally

Sally,

I am sorry that I bullied you. I was in deep and had lost the ability to see truth from false. I was worn down by rhetoric (and many other things) that I believed what they told me about myself. As I wrote in my story, the zeroed in on my self doubt with lightening speed and machine precision. I thought it was what I was supposed to do for the next woman. Please accept my sincerest apologies if you were hurt because of something I said or had done to you. I make sense of it today by factually looking at each situation that caused me trauma.