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TD
TD
5 years ago

Reading this makes me so mad. That a manipulative piece of shit like RJ could hold this kind of power over so many people is nuts. Christine, what do you think will happen when he’s gone? Do you think another male in that group will step into that role? Do you think it will be like a new day, and the women will actually lead, and it won’t be fear-based? Or do you think it will just dissolve? Is his psychological control and horrible behavior what is holding that group together?

Christine
Christine
5 years ago
Reply to  TD

I’m not sure what will happen and I try not to fantasize or speculate. I have found neither of these activities to be helpful to my goal of mental health. What holds this group together and what kept me there for 40 years was quite simply love. Love for RJ, but also love of the family, the community, the orgasm, the viewpoints and the extreme emotional states. Sadly enough I know that even if the organization dissolves the chances are high that the people in the group will just find someone else or situation, in the community or out, to recreate the trauma bonding that they have with RJ and each other. I hold boundless hope and belief that everyone involved, even RJ, can wake up and change their path.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and again I apologize for losing theses posts in my spam folder 🙂

Barry Honore
Barry Honore
5 years ago

Christine, I support you completely and have no doubt about the truth of what you say. I am completely shocked to learn of your experience as a child, though not surprised by your interaction with the Welcomed Consensus in general and RJ specifically. It didn’t take the story of RJ punching Steve in the face to know that RJ was a mean bully who used the women of the group for his own financial and sexual gain. There is nothing that I would put past that guy. His rationalization for his belief system and actions is just that – rationalization not reality. I know what a good person you are and and know too how strong you are. Be kind to yourself; I truly care for you and always have. Please let me know if I can help in any way and feel free to contact me.
Barry

Christine
Christine
5 years ago
Reply to  Barry Honore

Thank you Barry! I appreciate you reaching out to me early on and offering your support. I hope we can visit soon on one of my next trips.

I had forgotten that you were around for the whole punching of Steve and the end of his and Vera’s involvement with the WC. That time is such a blur I’m sure you have plenty of cringe worthy stories I don’t even remember, yikes! We’ll need a LARGE bottle of wine for that visit 😉

Christine